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 1918 - 1995 (77 years)
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Generation: 2
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| 7. | Elizabeth MARSHALL was born about 1871 in Surry County, North Carolina (daughter of John Marion MARSHALL and Frankie PATE); died on 18 Jan 1930 in San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas. Notes:
I am not certain whether this is John's child or a child of Frankie's by a previous marriage.
John Marion Marshall had twelve children by his wife, Christina Sparger. Then he left his family and went to Texas with another Frankie Pate. There it is reported that he raised another family of twelve children. I have no information about his death or where he is buried.
!Marshall 0241, pp. 1, 9 - This source, a letter from Robert K. Marshall to Gurney Robertson, dated 9/17/1925, sheds some light on John's second wife, Frankie Pate. It says that John wrote a letter to "Uncle Sam" (Samuel Edward Marshall?) and a letter to Martha Eleanor (Marshall) Saunders asking if he could return to Surry County with his "second wife." I am not sure that either letter exists now, or maybe they never did.
More information - Apparently he and Frankie went to Indianapolis, Indiana. There he met a man who owned a ranch in the area of San Antonio, Texas. The man hired John to go to Texas and look after his ranch. While John was in route to Texas, the man died in Indianapolis.
The census data below places him firmly in San Antonio, Texas in 1880. Apparently, Frankie had died.
1880 United States Census Census Place: San Antonio, Bexar, Texas Source: FHL Film 1255291 National Archives Film T9-1291, Page 79B
Rel Sex Marr Race Age Birth Occupation
John M. Marshall Self M W W 55 NC Wheel Wright
Elizabeth Marshall Dau F S W 9 NC
Wm Marshall Son M S W 7 NC
Minnie D. Marshall Dau F S W 3 IN
Maria Garera Other F W W 35 NM House Keeper
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Below is more information from Gilmer Robertson. He sent it to me January 5, 2002 in response to a message I broadcast to my distribution list offering a $100 reward for anyone who could find John.
Dear David,
It is nice to get your emails although I seldom respond. I'm not sure if I ever told you this or not (I probably did, but it's been too many years to know) but my Aunt Bettye Marshall Robertson told me that her husband Merlin actually went to John Marion's grave in Texas. Merlin and Bettye lived in Waco for many years and my recollection is that she said Merlin set out to track his down and met one of John's sons or grandsons-she couldn't remember what town the grave was located in.
Merlin and Bettye were cousins-Merlin's grandfather was John Marion and I believe that Bettye was John Marion's great-granddaughter. Bettye died in 1976 and I had talked with her about this probably in the early 70's so I am fuzzy on this one but it seems that John changed his name. I'm pretty sure she said he became just John Marion and dropped the Marshall completely. Well, that should be enough to confuse all of us- perhaps someday all of this will be discovered.
Keep up the good work-I could use the $100 to pay for Xmas but I don't think I have the time to do any research. Perhaps we could check all of the death records in the Texas counties.
Best regards for the new year,
Gil
Findagrave.com memorial ID: 200501523
Children:
- 3. Rufina CHAVEZ was born on 19 Nov 1890 in San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas; died on 4 Nov 1974 in San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas.
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| 14. | John Marion MARSHALL was born on 16 Oct 1824 in Surry County, North Carolina (son of Richard MARSHALL and Suzannah SAMUEL). Other Events and Attributes:
Notes:
Marshall 0001; Marshall 0004; Marshall 0005; Marshall 0017, Pg. 136, Marshall
0022 - John Marion Marshall had twelve children by his wife, Christina Sparger. Then he left his family and went to Texas with another Frankie Pate. There it is reported that he raised another family of twelve children. I have no information about his death or where he is buried.
!Marshall 0241, pp. 1, 9 - This source, a letter from Robert K. Marshall to Gurney Robertson, dated 9/17/1925, sheds some light on John's second wife, Frankie Pate. It says that John wrote a letter to "Uncle Sam" (Samuel Edward Marshall?) and a letter to Martha Eleanor (Marshall) Saunders asking if he could return to Surry County with his "second wife." I am not sure that either letter exists now, or maybe they never did.
More information - Apparently he and Frankie went to Indianapolis, Indiana. There he met a man who owned a ranch in the area of San Antonio, Texas. The man hired John to go to Texas and look after his ranch. While John was in route to Texas, the man died in Indianapolis.
The census data below places him firmly in San Antonio, Texas in 1880. Apparently, Frankie had died.
1880 United States Census Census Place: San Antonio, Bexar, Texas Source: FHL Film 1255291 National Archives Film T9-1291, Page 79B
Rel Sex Marr Race Age Birth Occupation
John M. Marshall Self M W W 55 NC Wheel Wright
Elizabeth Marshall Dau F S W 9 NC
Wm Marshall Son M S W 7 NC
Minnie D. Marshall Dau F S W 3 IN
Maria Garera Other F W W 35 NM House Keeper
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Below is more information from Gilmer Robertson. He sent it to me January 5, 2002 in response to a message I broadcast to my distribution list offering a $100 reward for anyone who could find John.
Dear David, It is nice to get your emails although I seldom respond. I'm not sure if I ever told you this or not (I probably did, but it's been too many years to know) but my Aunt Bettye Marshall Robertson told me that her husband Merlin actually went to John Marion's grave in Texas. Merlin and Bettye lived in Waco for many years and my recollection is that she said Merlin set out to track his down and met one of John's sons or grandsons-she couldn't remember what town the grave was located in. Merlin and Bettye were cousins-Merlin's grandfather was John Marion and I believe that Bettye was John Marion's great-granddaughter. Bettye died in 1976 and I had talked with her about this probably in the early 70's so I am fuzzy on this one but it seems that John changed his name. I'm pretty sure she said he became just John Marion and dropped the Marshall completely. Well, that should be enough to confuse all of us- perhaps someday all of this will be discovered. Keep up the good work-I could use the $100 to pay for Xmas but I don't think I have the time to do any research. Perhaps we could check all of the death records in the Texas counties. Best regards for the new year, Gil
John married Frankie PATE. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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| 15. | Frankie PATE Notes:
John Marion Marshall had twelve children by his wife, Christina Sparger. Then he left his family and went to Texas with another Frankie Pate. There it is reported that he raised another family of twelve children. I have no information about his death or where he is buried.
!Marshall 0241, pp. 1, 9 - This source, a letter from Robert K. Marshall to Gurney Robertson, dated 9/17/1925, sheds some light on John's second wife, Frankie Pate. It says that John wrote a letter to "Uncle Sam" (Samuel Edward Marshall?) and a letter to Martha Eleanor (Marshall) Saunders asking if he could return to Surry County with his "second wife." I am not sure that either letter exists now, or maybe they never did.
!More information - Apparently he and Frankie went to Indianapolis, Indiana. There he met a man who owned a ranch in the area of San Antonio, Texas. The man hired John to go to Texas and look after his ranch. While John was in route to Texas, the man died in Indianapolis.
The census data below places him firmly in San Antonio, Texas in 1880. Apparently, Frankie had died.
1880 United States Census Census Place: San Antonio, Bexar, Texas Source: FHL Film 1255291 National Archives Film T9-1291, Page 79B
Rel Sex Marr Race Age Birth Occupation
John M. Marshall Self M W W 55 NC Wheel Wright
Elizabeth Marshall Dau F S W 9 NC
Wm Marshall Son M S W 7 NC
Minnie D. Marshall Dau F S W 3 IN
Maria Garera Other F W W 35 NM House Keeper
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Below is ore information from Gilmer Robertson. He sent it to me January 5, 2002 in response to a message I broadcast to my distribution list offering a $100 reward for anyone who could find John.
Dear David, It is nice to get your emails although I seldom respond. I'm not sure if I ever told you this or not (I probably did, but it's been too many years to know) but my Aunt Bettye Marshall Robertson told me that her husband Merlin actaually went to John Marion's grave in Texas. Merlin and Bettye lived in Waco for many years and my recollection is that she said Merlin set out to track his down and met one of John's sons or grandsons-she couldn't remember what town the grave was located in. Merlin and Bettye were cousins-Merlin's grandfather was John Marion and I believe that Bettye was John Marion's great-granddaughter. Bettye died in 1976 and I had talked with her about this probably in the early 70's so I am fuzzy on this one but it seems that John changed his name. I'm pretty sure she said he became just John Marion and dropped the Marshall completely. Well, that should be enought to confuse all of us- perhaps someday all of this will be discovered. Keep up the good work-I could use the $100 to pay for Xmas but I don't think I have the time to do any research. Perhaps we could check all of the death records in the Texas counties. Best regards for the new year, Gil
Children:
- 7. Elizabeth MARSHALL was born about 1871 in Surry County, North Carolina; died on 18 Jan 1930 in San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas.
- William Franklin MARSHALL was born on 6 Jun 1870 in North Carolina; died on 23 Jan 1953 in Beeville, Bee County, Texas.
- Minnie MARSHALL was born about 1877.
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