Elizabeth MARSHALL

Notes:

I am not certain whether this is John's child or a child of Frankie's by a previous marriage.

John Marion Marshall had twelve children by his wife, Christina Sparger. Then he left his family and went to Texas with another Frankie Pate. There it is reported that he raised another family of twelve children. I have no information about his death or where he is buried.
!Marshall 0241, pp. 1, 9 - This source, a letter from Robert K. Marshall to Gurney Robertson, dated 9/17/1925, sheds some light on John's second wife, Frankie Pate. It says that John wrote a letter to "Uncle Sam" (Samuel Edward Marshall?) and a letter to Martha Eleanor (Marshall) Saunders asking if he could return to Surry County with his "second wife." I am not sure that either letter exists now, or maybe they never did.

More information - Apparently he and Frankie went to Indianapolis, Indiana. There he met a man who owned a ranch in the area of San Antonio, Texas. The man hired John to go to Texas and look after his ranch. While John was in route to Texas, the man died in Indianapolis.

The census data below places him firmly in San Antonio, Texas in 1880. Apparently, Frankie had died.

1880 United States CensusCensus Place: San Antonio, Bexar, TexasSource: FHL Film 1255291 National Archives Film T9-1291, Page 79B 
Rel Sex Marr Race Age Birth Occupation
John M. Marshall Self M W W 55 NC Wheel Wright
Elizabeth Marshall Dau F S W 9 NC
Wm Marshall Son M S W 7 NC
Minnie D. Marshall Dau F S W 3 IN
Maria Garera Other F W W 35 NM House Keeper


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Below is more information from Gilmer Robertson. He sent it to me January 5, 2002 in response to a message I broadcast to my distribution list offering a $100 reward for anyone who could find John.

Dear David,

It is nice to get your emails although I seldom respond. I'm not sure if I ever told you this or not (I probably did, but it's been too many years to know) but my Aunt Bettye Marshall Robertson told me that her husband Merlin actually went to John Marion's grave in Texas. Merlin and Bettye lived in Waco for many years and my recollection is that she said Merlin set out to track his down and met one of John's sons or grandsons-she couldn't remember what town the grave was located in.

Merlin and Bettye were cousins-Merlin's grandfather was John Marion and I believe that Bettye was John Marion's great-granddaughter. Bettye died in 1976 and I had talked with her about this probably in the early 70's so I am fuzzy on this one but it seems that John changed his name. I'm pretty sure she said he became just John Marion and dropped the Marshall completely. Well, that should be enough to confuse all of us- perhaps someday all of this will be discovered.

Keep up the good work-I could use the $100 to pay for Xmas but I don't think I have the time to do any research. Perhaps we could check all of the death records in the Texas counties.

Best regards for the new year,
Gil




Findagrave.com memorial ID: 200501523

Elizabeth married Guadalupe CHAVEZ on 6 Apr 1886 in Bexar County, Texas. Guadalupe was born in 1848 in Mexico; died in 1898 in San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Rufina CHAVEZ was born on 19 Nov 1890 in San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas; died on 4 Nov 1974 in San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas.

Elizabeth married Silvestre HERNANDEZ on 7 Dec 1925 in San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas. Silvestre was born in San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas; died in San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: 48

Notes:

Marshall 0001; Marshall 0004; Marshall 0005; Marshall 0017, Pg. 136, Marshall
0022 - John Marion Marshall had twelve children by his wife, Christina Sparger. Then he left his family and went to Texas with another Frankie Pate. There it is reported that he raised another family of twelve children. I have no information about his death or where he is buried.
!Marshall 0241, pp. 1, 9 - This source, a letter from Robert K. Marshall to Gurney Robertson, dated 9/17/1925, sheds some light on John's second wife, Frankie Pate. It says that John wrote a letter to "Uncle Sam" (Samuel Edward Marshall?) and a letter to Martha Eleanor (Marshall) Saunders asking if he could return to Surry County with his "second wife." I am not sure that either letter exists now, or maybe they never did.

More information - Apparently he and Frankie went to Indianapolis, Indiana. There he met a man who owned a ranch in the area of San Antonio, Texas. The man hired John to go to Texas and look after his ranch. While John was in route to Texas, the man died in Indianapolis.

The census data below places him firmly in San Antonio, Texas in 1880. Apparently, Frankie had died.



1880 United States CensusCensus Place: San Antonio, Bexar, TexasSource: FHL Film 1255291 National Archives Film T9-1291, Page 79B 
Rel Sex Marr Race Age Birth Occupation
John M. Marshall Self M W W 55 NC Wheel Wright
Elizabeth Marshall Dau F S W 9 NC
Wm Marshall Son M S W 7 NC
Minnie D. Marshall Dau F S W 3 IN
Maria Garera Other F W W 35 NM House Keeper


_________________________________________
Below is more information from Gilmer Robertson. He sent it to me January 5, 2002 in response to a message I broadcast to my distribution list offering a $100 reward for anyone who could find John.

Dear David,It is nice to get your emails although I seldom respond. I'm not sure if I ever told you this or not (I probably did, but it's been too many years to know) but my Aunt Bettye Marshall Robertson told me that her husband Merlin actually went to John Marion's grave in Texas. Merlin and Bettye lived in Waco for many years and my recollection is that she said Merlin set out to track his down and met one of John's sons or grandsons-she couldn't remember what town the grave was located in. Merlin and Bettye were cousins-Merlin's grandfather was John Marion and I believe that Bettye was John Marion's great-granddaughter. Bettye died in 1976 and I had talked with her about this probably in the early 70's so I am fuzzy on this one but it seems that John changed his name. I'm pretty sure she said he became just John Marion and dropped the Marshall completely. Well, that should be enough to confuse all of us- perhaps someday all of this will be discovered. Keep up the good work-I could use the $100 to pay for Xmas but I don't think I have the time to do any research. Perhaps we could check all of the death records in the Texas counties. Best regards for the new year, Gil

John married Frankie PATE. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

John Marion Marshall had twelve children by his wife, Christina Sparger. Then he left his family and went to Texas with another Frankie Pate. There it is reported that he raised another family of twelve children. I have no information about his death or where he is buried.
!Marshall 0241, pp. 1, 9 - This source, a letter from Robert K. Marshall to Gurney Robertson, dated 9/17/1925, sheds some light on John's second wife, Frankie Pate. It says that John wrote a letter to "Uncle Sam" (Samuel Edward Marshall?) and a letter to Martha Eleanor (Marshall) Saunders asking if he could return to Surry County with his "second wife." I am not sure that either letter exists now, or maybe they never did.

!More information - Apparently he and Frankie went to Indianapolis, Indiana. There he met a man who owned a ranch in the area of San Antonio, Texas. The man hired John to go to Texas and look after his ranch. While John was in route to Texas, the man died in Indianapolis.

The census data below places him firmly in San Antonio, Texas in 1880. Apparently, Frankie had died.

1880 United States CensusCensus Place: San Antonio, Bexar, TexasSource: FHL Film 1255291 National Archives Film T9-1291, Page 79B 
Rel Sex Marr Race Age Birth Occupation
John M. Marshall Self M W W 55 NC Wheel Wright
Elizabeth Marshall Dau F S W 9 NC
Wm Marshall Son M S W 7 NC
Minnie D. Marshall Dau F S W 3 IN
Maria Garera Other F W W 35 NM House Keeper


_________________________________________
Below is ore information from Gilmer Robertson. He sent it to me January 5, 2002 in response to a message I broadcast to my distribution list offering a $100 reward for anyone who could find John.

Dear David,It is nice to get your emails although I seldom respond. I'm not sure if I ever told you this or not (I probably did, but it's been too many years to know) but my Aunt Bettye Marshall Robertson told me that her husband Merlin actaually went to John Marion's grave in Texas. Merlin and Bettye lived in Waco for many years and my recollection is that she said Merlin set out to track his down and met one of John's sons or grandsons-she couldn't remember what town the grave was located in. Merlin and Bettye were cousins-Merlin's grandfather was John Marion and I believe that Bettye was John Marion's great-granddaughter. Bettye died in 1976 and I had talked with her about this probably in the early 70's so I am fuzzy on this one but it seems that John changed his name. I'm pretty sure she said he became just John Marion and dropped the Marshall completely. Well, that should be enought to confuse all of us- perhaps someday all of this will be discovered. Keep up the good work-I could use the $100 to pay for Xmas but I don't think I have the time to do any research. Perhaps we could check all of the death records in the Texas counties.Best regards for the new year,Gil

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: 96

Notes:

!Marshall 0001; Marshall 0002, pg. 5; Marshall 0017, Pg. 136 - Richard and Suzannah are both buried in Salem Methodist Church Cemetery in Mount Airy, North Carolina.

Richard married Suzannah SAMUEL on 3 Oct 1821 in Stokes County, North Carolina. Suzannah (daughter of Edmund SAMUEL and Suzannah HILL) was born on 26 Apr 1803 in Stokes County, North Carolina; died on 25 Aug 1880 in Surry County, North Carolina. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: 97

Notes:

!Marshall 0001; Marshall 22, pg. 5; Marshall 0017, Pg. 136 - Suzannah is buried with her husband, Richard, in Salem Methodist Church Cemetery in Mount Airy, North Carolina.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: 192

Notes:

Marshall 0001; Marshall 0002; Marshall 0019, 0020, & 0021 - Martin was married twice. I have no information about his first wife, but they had two sons, William and James.
!Martin is buried in the family cemetery; go down "Dusty Trail" off Baux Mountain Road in Forsyth County, NC. I have visited his grave site. Some sources give Forsyth County as his place of death. But Forsyth County was not formed until 1849. Until then it was part of Stokes County. Https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/62553647/martin-marshall [DWM-1993]

Marshall 0043, pg. 2 - Letter from Nancy Lynn (Marshall) Reu.

Marshall 0152, pg. 4 - This source gives his first wife's name as Susanna Basel. I can find no basis for this, but there are other Marshall's who think that might have been her name.

Marshall 0163, p. 1 - Letter from Michael Marshall. He speculates that Martins first wife might have been named Sarah Boswell. There are family stories that his first wife was Sarah Basil. Michael says that he has seen Boswell spelled several different ways similar to Basil. If that speculation eventually shows merit, that it is possible that Martin's first wife could have been Eleanor's (his second wife's) sister.

Scanned - Picture of Tombstone
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According to the documentation below Martin's first name was William. I have no other confirmation about this. (DWM)

[Marshall-Mike]

Subj: Martin Marshall
Date: 04/16/00 12:08:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: michaelmarsha88@hotmail.com (mike marshall)
To: DMarsh1041@aol.com

David-This is just a rough guess. Rough is a key word. I have a paper from family that documents itself as; Hall of Records - Annapolis Md Liber#27 Folio #317, Va. Col. Abstracts Sev. 2-5, York Co Va. 1657-1659.,pg. 45 & pg. 30 V Ser2 Va. Colonial Record Pg 510 & 512. Va Colonial Rec. vol Ser. 2 Northumberland, Co Va p 431 & 78. Mar. 19, 1706-1707. Census of Md. William Marshall son of Richard married Eleanor Boswell. See previous fax. Rootsweb - Phillip Hatcher W. Martin Marshall 1749-1824 married Eleanor Boswell. Rootsweb - Decendants of John Montgomery. Martin Marshall, Will 1824 Stokes Co., Nc ,2nd wife Eleanor Boswell. Moved from Albermarle Co, Va to Stokes Co. in 1798. (Same year Richard Died)

Rootsweb - Phillip Hatcher W. Martin Marshall Marriage 1 Sarah Basal Marriage 2 Eleanor Boswell. Rootsweb Brenda Marshall Inman. Martin Wells Marshall 1790 in Va. 10 Nov, 1871 - Father Martin Marshall Married Eleanor Boswell.

Rootsweb - Billy Markland: Martin Wells Marshall, b. 1789 d.1871: 11/28/1814 Volunteered for service with Capt. John L. Houser's .Company of infantry, 5th Regiment of NC Milita. Rate of pay was 8.00/month. Discharged on 2/22/1815 at Norfolk, Va. --Source: Della Marshall Jones "The Marshalls of House and Barn Mountain". I think Martin Wells Martin maybe the son of William Martin Marshall who Married Eleanor Boswell. If I can figure out if W.M. Marshall and brother Richards dad was actually Richard Thomas Marshall I think I have this link licked. What do you think? MM





From: Diane Whetstone
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 3:23 PM
To: David Marshall
Subject: RE: Marshall Genealogy Manuscript


I don't know if I told you but I was able to get Martin Marshall approved as a patriot for NSDAR. His ancestor id is A216270.

He was listed in the Albemarle Co VA personal property tax list of 1783 this is considered acceptable service. A portion of the 1783 Virginia personal property tax and land tax went to support the war effort.

Diane Whetstone

DAR Number: 970178

Martin married Elender (Eleanor) BOSWELL. Elender (daughter of Matthew BOSWELL, Sr. and Sarah) was born on 27 Oct 1760; died on 8 Feb 1820 in Stokes County, North Carolina; was buried in Forsyth County, North Carolina. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: 193

Notes:

Marshall 0001; Marshall 0019, 0020, & 0021 - She is buried in the family cemetery. See note with Martin Marshall.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/62553782

Some sources give Forsyth County as her place of death. But Forsyth County was not formed until 1849. Until then it was part of Stokes County.

Marshall 0043. pg. 2

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: 194

Notes:

!Marshall 0001; Marshall 0022 - I do not know for certain who Edmund and
Suzannah's children were except for Suzannah. All of the other children come
from information I received from Betty McGarity of Atlanta, Georgia. She got
the information from Nell Bausell of Wythville, Virginia. I intend to check
the validity of the other brothers and sisters.
!Marshall 0043, pg. 2

Edmund married Suzannah HILL on 15 Mar 1788 in , Surry County, North Carolina. Suzannah (daughter of Capt. Robert HILL and Martha HALBERT) was born on 25 Jun 1770 in Stokes County, North Carolina; died in Stokes County, North Carolina. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Reference Number: 195

Notes:

!Marshall 0001; Hill 0001